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22 April 2009 @ 11:06 pm
The One Where I Don't Have A Lot to Say  
Well, new CM tonight.  Murry and I chilled at nine and got ready for ten.  Spoilers under the cut.

This episode disturbed the hell out of me.  Yeah, I am used to sociopaths, and even sociopathic kids but it just gave me the willies all over.  It was well acted and well played and I thought it was a terrific episode but this will not be my usual review.  I cant give a blow by blow, I am actually just too creeped out.  To see a child with absolutely no remorse for the death of his brother.  To see adults try to protect him while secretly knowing something is seriously wrong with him.  Did they think the FBI would observe him for longer than 5 minutes and not know something was way off?  I knew something was way off with him from the beginning but the writers did a good job of not making it about him, giving you just a sense of a devastated family.  But as soon as the father said he didnt understand what was going on, I knew something was strange.  He was old enough to understand, maybe not everything but enough.

I loved the team in this, the way they worked together, played off each other, played off Detective Lancaster.  What a WTF, to get caught in the middle of this family drama while also working another case where boys were murdered by a dangerous pedophile.  I didnt feel too bad about that Mo getting it all pinned on him but that would not serve justice.  What were they going to do the next time little Danny lost his temper?  And then to find out about the puppy, that just made me want to vomit.  And all this little bastard wanted was potato chips and video games.  Just the idea that sociopaths are born, have little hope straight from the womb......its so fuckin scary.

So while the episode didnt render my speechless in the sense that I am able to type something, it really got my in my gut.  I thought it was amazing but it also kinda made me sick.......so I know it was good.                                                                                                      

I gotta hit the hay, I have a long day tomorrow.  Already did my first drabble for cm_drabbles and someone else did one about Garcia's family so I dont think I am going to write the one I had in mind for her.......I will focus on the other characters and see what I come up with.  There are definitely enough parental issues to go around.  Goodnight guys.
I'm In....: the lair
I Feel....: nauseatedsickened
I Hear....: lcoal news
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SSA McGeek: Hotch....contemplationmcgarrygirl78 on April 23rd, 2009 10:58 am (UTC)
When they showed how it all went down, it was just so damn sad. The kid didnt show a lick of remorse or feeling. To have Prentiss describing it so coldly sent shivers down my spine. And then that cop giving up everything to protect a child who was clearly disturbed. They could have just told police it was an accident, which they wanted to believe it was.
borg_princess: emilyborg_princess on April 23rd, 2009 06:15 am (UTC)
Even though it made you feel sick, I can't wait to see this episode- none of us regular fans are delicate flowers, so for it to affect you like this...*wriggles* Also, I have a fondness for sociopathic kids. We studied a book about a child killer [I hate that term, it sounds like a killer of children but how else do you describe a child that has killed?] in high school and it was just so- 'interesting' is the wrong word, but we were all definitely caught up in it.
SSA McGeek: Emilymcgarrygirl78 on April 23rd, 2009 10:59 am (UTC)
I studied serial killers in college, I have read tons of books and seen movies and am not disturbed easily by psychosis but there was something about this that just got to me. Maybe it was because the victim was a child too. I cant explain but it is a very good episode.
borg_princess: hotch-thinking death glareborg_princess on April 24th, 2009 12:33 am (UTC)
This reminds me, there was another CM ep back in the Gideon days involving a child killing other children. The one with Elle Fanning, and the boy running after her with a baseball bat. Did that one evoke the same sort of reaction?

On a lighter note, that brings to mind thoughts of the spoilers from this ep where the men randomly jumped onto the playground equipment and started playing like little kids! Hysterical... :D *pets Mandy*
SSA McGeek: Gideon....thought processesmcgarrygirl78 on April 24th, 2009 01:02 am (UTC)
To be honest, it didnt. Maybe this one was more troublesome for me because of who the little boy killed.

*joins in petting Mandy*
Left in a basket on the steps of the FBIinnerslytherin on April 24th, 2009 03:56 am (UTC)
Sociopaths pretty much are born, seems to be the going consensus among all the profilers I've read. Now, I haven't read what the psychologists say except for Samenow, but the behaviorists like Douglas and Ressler and McCrary, they pretty much all seem to agree with Samenow that sociopaths are NOT products of their childhoods or environments. They are just born without the ability to feel emotions the way normal people do.

But honestly, there are still people out there who think that sociopaths can be rehabilitated and reformed, and it's just simply not possible. If you educate a sociopath, you don't have a normal person--you have a smart sociopath. But I can see why the parents thought they could save their son.

The cop...not so much. After 23 years on the job, he should recognize a remorseless killer when he sees one, even if said remorseless killer is 10.

I confess, though, at first I just thought the kid knew something...and I thought what he knew was that "Uncle Bill" was molesting Kyle. It wasn't until the scene with the chips that I figured it out.
SSA McGeek: Gideon....thought processesmcgarrygirl78 on April 24th, 2009 02:38 pm (UTC)
Oh sociopaths are a bit of a past time for me, I was a sociology major in college with a concentration in Criminal Justice and took a buttload of psych classes. I know they cannot be rehabilitated but it jarred me to see the portrayal of a child that way. The cop was ridiculous in my opinion, he knew what that kid was but he let the loss of his own kids cloud his judgment. I can see why but honestly he would have done better to take himself out of the situation altogether.

That kid jacked those chips up....the quick onset of anger followed by one of just sitting there soaking up the scenery was chilling. I honestly cant say why it got to me so much. Someone else mentioned the ep in Season 1 with the kid killing kids in the small town and that didnt bother me as much as this one. Maybe it was the whole adult conspiracy, shielding a child who killed another and hadnt so much as shed a tear about it.
Left in a basket on the steps of the FBIinnerslytherin on April 25th, 2009 03:57 am (UTC)
The boy in that S1 episode was deeply disturbed, yes, but he wasn't a sociopath. I found it extremely chilling to see a ten-year-old sociopath, because he's just so young and so utterly emotionless.

I WISH I had studied something so practical. I got a double degree in history and creative writing, with a minor in medieval studies, and those things all help me write fantasy, but since I don't get paid for that yet...

I would totally LOVE to go back to school for criminology, but by the time I finished a degree, I would be too old to become a special agent for the FBI anyway. Here's hoping they'll take me on diverse experience. :P
SSA McGeek: Hotch....contemplationmcgarrygirl78 on April 25th, 2009 04:06 am (UTC)
I have a double degree in Sociology/Criminal Justice and History and I was just a few classes short of minors in both psychology and philosophy. I graduated with much more credits than I needed but I wanted to learn everything I could.

I started with criminal justice because I wanted to be an FBI profiler (though they say there is no such thing) since I was 11 and saw Silence of the Lambs. I have studied it extensively since then but gave up that dream somewhere in the middle.

And you are right, the kid in Season one was not a sociopath, just clearly troubled. The kid in Wednesday's episode just freaked me out, eating those potato chips while they talked about him stuffing plane parts down his brother's throat.
Left in a basket on the steps of the FBIinnerslytherin on April 26th, 2009 01:59 am (UTC)
Well, they say there's no such thing, but I think they're nit-picking on that, because clearly there are people who do the job that is known in layman's terms as "profiling", but they have an FBI (aka governmentally complicated) title like Criminal Behavioral Analyst or something. :P

I keep telling myself that it's okay if the FBI doesn't want me, because I can still do research and write novels about the FBI. But I have wanted to work for them for so many years....

Oh well, we'll see what happens. :P
SSA McGeek: Emily Prentiss.....gazed uponmcgarrygirl78 on April 26th, 2009 02:56 am (UTC)
I would love to be an FBI Agent....I would be awesome. But writing about them is fun as well. The job is probably much more interesting on TV/movies than in real life. Plus, I am not exactly the most athletic person on earth. I'll just live vicariously through Emily Prentiss...it's been fun so far : )
Caitriona_3caitriona_3 on April 26th, 2009 09:49 pm (UTC)
I twigged something with Danny part way through the show, but I thought it was going to be an accident or something. Maybe even Danny covering for someone. When everything finally came out, it was highly disturbing. Comparing this episode to the season one "child killer" - even after Gideon pulled the boy away from his target, the boy was still trying to get to her, still caught in some serious emotional difficulty. This boy just sits there - calmly eating chips and watching his parents fall apart. The absolute lack of ANY kind of emotion - remorse, sorrow, heck - he didn't even feel happy (sick as that would have been). He just sat there - a blank slate. As one old quote says - "a mask over emptiness" - that is the most disturbing thing about him.
SSA McGeek: Hotch and Prentiss...mcgarrygirl78mcgarrygirl78 on April 30th, 2009 03:24 am (UTC)
I am so sorry I missed this but you are right, the lack of anything just made me shiver. And to see him lose it because he couldnt open the chips......just insane.